Premeditation
Rogue · Subtlety · opens at 10 points spent · 1 rank
Premeditation works differently in World of Warcraft: Forever than it does in Classic Era.
Changed in the latest patch (Blizzard's 2 November changes). See the patch notes
20 yd range · Instant · 2 min cooldown
Premeditation ranks in Forever
- Rank 1 Adds 2 Combo Points to your target. You must add to or use those combo points within 20 sec or the combo points are lost.
What Premeditation does in Classic Era
Forever changed this talent. The Classic Era wording is kept here rank for rank so the two can be read side by side.
- Rank 1 When used, adds 2 combo points to your target. You must add to or use those combo points within 10 sec or the combo points are lost.
Where Premeditation sits in the Subtlety tree
Premeditation is a Subtlety talent for Rogue. You need 10 points in Subtlety before the row it sits on opens.
- Same row: Initiative, Serrated Blades
How often people take Premeditation
41 of the 153 public Rogue builds saved here (27%) put at least one point in Premeditation. Counted across the 1500 most viewed and voted public builds on this site. These are builds players made for themselves before the game is playable, so read them as what people are trying, not as advice.
Builds that take Premeditation
7 of the public Rogue builds written up here spend points on Premeditation.
- Rogue Subtlety 7/8/24 · 1/1 , 27 up
- Rogue Subtlety 5/12/23 · 1/1 , 5 up
- Rogue Subtlety 6/8/22 · 1/1 , 2 up
- Rogue Subtlety 6/8/18 · 1/1
- Rogue Subtlety 7/8/19 · 1/1
- Rogue Subtlety 5/12/18 · 1/1
- Rogue Subtlety 5/0/19 · 1/1
Where this came from
Changed in Forever.
- Forever client build 1.60.1.70755
- the WoW: Forever client's hotfix cache, 4 November 2026 (DBCache.bin, build 70755)