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Rogue Subtlety 25/0/26

Assassination 25 · Combat 0 · Subtlety 26 · 51 points · 22 talents

A public Rogue build saved with this calculator. It spends 51 points, 25/0/26 across Assassination, Combat, Subtlety, and takes 22 talents — 3 of them new in Forever and 17 rewritten from Classic Era. Nobody has played Forever yet, so this is what a player wanted to try, not a recommendation.

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Assassination — 25 points

  • Malice 5/5 ◆

    Increases your critical strike chance with all attacks and Poisons by 5%.

  • Ruthlessness 3/3 5 pts ◆

    Gives your finishing moves a 60% chance to add a Combo Point to your target.

  • Murder 2/2 5 pts ◆

    Increases all damage dealt by 4% against Humanoid and Giant targets.

  • Relentless Strikes 1/1 10 pts ◆

    Your finishing moves have a 20% chance per Combo Point to restore 25 Energy.

  • Lethality 5/5 10 pts ◆

    Increases the critical strike damage bonus of your Sinister Strike, Gouge, Backstab, Mutilate, Ghostly Strike, and Hemorrhage abilities by 20%.

  • Vile Poisons 2/5 15 pts

    Increases the damage dealt by your poisons by 8% and gives your poisons an additional 16% chance to resist dispel effects.

  • Cold Blood 1/1 15 pts ◆

    When activated, increases the critical strike chance of your next Sinister Strike, Backstab, Ambush, Eviscerate, or Mutilate by 100%.

  • Improved Poisons 3/5 15 pts ◆

    Increases the chance to apply Poisons to your target by 6%, and gives Poison applications a 30% chance to not consume a charge.

  • Mutilate 1/1 20 pts ★

    Instantly attacks with both weapons for 75% weapon damage plus an additional 17.25 with each weapon. Damage increased by 20% against Poisoned targets. Awards 2 Combo Points.

  • Improved Kidney Shot 2/2 20 pts ◆

    Enemies Stunned by your Kidney Shot ability take 10% increased damage from your poisons and attacks.

Subtlety — 26 points

  • Camouflage 3/5 ◆

    Reduces your speed penalty from your Stealth ability by 9% and reduces its cooldown by 4 sec.

  • Master of Deception 3/3 ◆

    Reduces the chance enemies have to detect you while in Stealth mode as if you were 3 levels higher.

  • Opportunity 2/2 ◆

    Increases the damage dealt by your Backstab, Garrote, Ambush, and Mutilate abilities by 10%.

  • Elusiveness 2/2 5 pts ◆

    Reduces the cooldown of your Vanish and Blind abilities by 90 sec.

  • Dirty Tricks 2/2 5 pts ★

    Reduces the Energy cost of your Sap and Blind abilities by 50%.

  • Initiative 3/3 10 pts ◆

    Gives you a 100% chance to add an additional combo point to your target when using your Ambush, Garrote, or Cheap Shot ability.

  • Improved Distract 2/2 10 pts ★

    Increases the radius of your Distract ability by 5 yds, and further reduces the Stealth detection of distracted enemies as though they were an additional 2 levels lower.

  • Heightened Senses 2/2 15 pts ◆

    Increases your Stealth detection as if you were 3 levels higher and reduces your chance to be hit by spells and ranged attacks by 4%.

  • Premeditation 1/1 15 pts ◆

    Adds 2 Combo Points to your target. You must add to or use those combo points within 20 sec or the combo points are lost.

  • Serrated Blades 3/3 15 pts ◆

    Causes your attacks to ignore 9% of your target's Armor and increases the damage dealt by your Rupture ability by 30%.

  • Dirty Deeds 2/2 20 pts ◆

    Reduces the Energy cost of your Cheap Shot and Garrote abilities by 20, and your Garrote ability no longer requires you to be behind your target.

  • Preparation 1/1 20 pts

    When activated, this ability immediately finishes the cooldown on your other Rogue abilities.

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