Setup
Rogue · Subtlety · available from the first tier · 3 ranks
Setup works differently in World of Warcraft: Forever than it does in Classic Era.
Changed in the latest patch (Blizzard's 2 November changes). See the patch notes
Setup ranks in Forever
- Rank 1 Gives you a 15% chance to add a Combo Point to your target after Dodging their attack or fully resisting one of their spells.
- Rank 2 Gives you a 30% chance to add a Combo Point to your target after Dodging their attack or fully resisting one of their spells.
- Rank 3 Gives you a 45% chance to add a Combo Point to your target after Dodging their attack or fully resisting one of their spells.
What Setup does in Classic Era
Forever changed this talent. The Classic Era wording is kept here rank for rank so the two can be read side by side.
- Rank 1 Gives you a 15% chance to add a combo point to your target after dodging their attack or fully resisting one of their spells.
- Rank 2 Gives you a 30% chance to add a combo point to your target after dodging their attack or fully resisting one of their spells.
- Rank 3 Gives you a 45% chance to add a combo point to your target after dodging their attack or fully resisting one of their spells.
Where Setup sits in the Subtlety tree
Setup is a Subtlety talent for Rogue. It sits on the first row, so it can be taken straight away.
- Same row: Master of Deception, Opportunity
How often people take Setup
16 of the 153 public Rogue builds saved here (10%) put at least one point in Setup. Counted across the 1500 most viewed and voted public builds on this site. These are builds players made for themselves before the game is playable, so read them as what people are trying, not as advice.
Builds that take Setup
4 of the public Rogue builds written up here spend points on Setup.
- Rogue Subtlety 7/8/24 · 3/3 , 27 up
- Rogue Subtlety 6/8/22 · 3/3 , 2 up
- Rogue Subtlety 6/8/18 · 3/3
- Rogue Subtlety 7/8/19 · 3/3
Where this came from
Changed in Forever.
- Forever client build 1.60.1.70755
- the WoW: Forever client's hotfix cache, 4 November 2026 (DBCache.bin, build 70755)